0378 Page – Leo Frank Georgia Supreme Court Appeals Records, 1913, 1914

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and I saw white smeared where the chips had been cut out and
there were also some dark spots over the chipped out places.
It was just as though somebody had taken a cloth and rubbed
some white substance around in a circle, about eight inches
in diam eter. This white stuff covered all of the dark spots.
I didn't note any unusual sign of nervousness about Frank in
his office. There wasn't any trembling or anything
of that sort at that time. On Tuesday night, April 29, Black
Mr. Frank and myself were together and Mr. Black told Mr.
Frank that he believed Newt Lee was not telling all that he
knew. I also said to Mr. Frank that Newt knew more than he was
telling, and that as he was his employer, I thought he could
get more out of the nigger than we could, and I asked him if
he would consent to go into a room as employer and employee and
try to get it out of him. Mr. Frank readily consented and
we put them in a private room, they were together there for
about ten minutes alone. When about ten minutes was up,
Mr. Black and I entered the room and Lee hadn't finished his
conversation with Frank and was saying "Mr. Frank it is awful
hard for me to remain handcuffed to this chair," and Frank hung
his head and entire time the negro was talking to him, and
finally in about thirty seconds, he said "Well, they have got
me too." After that we asked Mr. Frank if he had gotten
anything out of the negro and he said, "No, Lee still stuck
to his original story." Mr. Frank was extremely nervous at that
time. He was very squirmy in his chair, crossing one leg after
the other and didn't know where to put his hands; he was moving
them up and down his face, and he hung his head a great deal
of the time while the negro was talking to him. He breathed
very heavily and took deep swallows. His eyes were about the
same as they are now. The story between Lee and Frank

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