1113 Page – Leo Frank Georgia Supreme Court Appeals Records, 1913, 1914

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the little girl was Mary Perkins. He never said anything at all about Mary
Perkins. We pressed him that day as to whether he saw Mary Phagan or not.
He finally told us that he saw her dead body. He never did tell us that he heard
a lady scream though we asked him about it. He said he did not hear anybody
scream while he was sitting on the box. He said he didn't hear anything at
all that day. He never said anything about Mr. Frank having hit her, and
having hit her too hard. He never said anything about somebody running on
tiptoes from the metal department and back again. He said he did not hear
any stamping. He did not tell us anything about Mr. Frank telling him how
to lock the door. He did not tell us anything about Mr. Frank having a cord in
his hand at the top of the steps or that Frank looked funny about his eyes
or that his face was red. He didn't tell us that he went back there and found
the little girl with a rope around her neck and a piece of underclothing or that
he went back to Mr. Frank and told him the girl was dead, or that he wrapped
her in a piece of cloth. He said it was a crocus sack. He did not say any-
thing about Mr. Frank saying "Sh-sh." He didn't say that he put the
sack on his shoulder and that body dangled round about his legs. He said
he never saw the ribbon; didn't know where it was. We asked him whether
there was any thought of burning the body and he said no. He didn't
know anything about that. He never said anything about his promising to come
back and burn the body or that he said to Mr. Frank "You are a white man
and done it, and I am not going down there and burn it myself"; or that
Mr. Frank had arranged to give his bond and send him away; or that Frank
said he would have a place to get in by when he came back to burn the body, or
said he owed a Jew ten cents and paid it. He did not tell us of any conver-
sation he had with Mr. Frank on Tuesday after the murder in which Mr. Frank
said "If you had come back on Saturday and done what I told you there
wouldn't have been any trouble." As to the scene between Conley and me
when I undertook to convince him that I knew he could write on Sunday,
May 18th, I called him up at Chief Lanford's office, gave him a paper and
pencil and told him that we understood he couldn't write and now we
knew he could write and we wanted him to write what we told him. He sat
there and looked at us while we were talking-and-I told him to write as I
dictated and he picked up the pencil and wrote immediately. We convinced
him that we knew he could write and then he wrote.

RE-DIRECT EXAMINATION

I got information as to Conley writing through my operations while I was
out of town. McWorth told me when I returned. I got no information
personally about Conley being able to write from the Pencil company people.
Personally I did not get information as to Conley's being able to write from
Pencil company. I got it from outside sources, wholly disconnected with the
Pencil company. As to whom I first communicated anything about Mrs.
White's statement about seeing a negro down there, my impression is I told
it in my many conversations with Black, and Chief Lanford and Bass Rosser.