Wednesday, 30th April 1913 Witness Saw Slain Girl and Man at Factory Door

Atlanta Georgian

Wednesday April 30th, 1913

J. G. Spier followed Newt Lee on the stand. He lives at Cartersville, Georgia

Q. Were you about the National Pencil Company plant? A. Yes, sir; we walked over to the Terminal station from the Kimball House. I was with a friend. I left the Terminal station at 10 minutes of 4, then walked back there, going back Forsyth Street. I passed the pencil factory about 10 minutes after 4 o'clock. I noticed a young girl and a young man, a Jew of about 25, talking.

Q. Were they excited? A. My impression was that they were. The girl seemed excited and the man nervous.

Q. Was his face flushed? A. He had the appearance of having had a drink. That was my impression.

Q. Did you come back by there later?

Couple Still There.

A.—Yes; I came back to the Western Union to see a friend. The same couple was there.

Q.—Are you sure they were the same couple?

A.—I judge they were.

Q.—Were they in the same position?

A.—The girl had moved to the outer edge of the sidewalk.

Q.—Did you see the girl again?

A.—Yes, the next morning I saw her in the Bloomfield undertaking place. It was the dead girl.

Q.—Have you seen the man since?

A.—I think I did. I saw a man at the pencil factory Sunday whom I was told was Mr. Frank, but I have been told since then that it was not him.

Q.—When did you learn of this?

A. Sunday morning when I was on a car continuing a private investigation of another matter for which I was here. I bought an extra, put it in my pocket and did not read it until I got on the car. I was looking for a Fair-Street car.

Q. What time did you catch a car?

A. About 8 o'clock. I got off the car at Broad Street and talked to a policeman. We walked down to the pencil factory and I told him all I knew.

Q. What was the complexion of the man you saw Saturday?

A. I couldn't say.

Q. You are sure he was a Jew?

A. Yes.

Q. How tall?

A. About to my shoulder.

Q.  How was the girl dressed?

A. I think her clothes were a little dark.

Q. Did she have ribbon on her hair?

A. I think so. I think she had her hair hanging down her back.

Q. You can't remember the man, but you remember the girl?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know whether she was bareheaded?

A. I can't say.

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